Episode 200 — Take A COURAGEOUS Stand For Your Child
Guest: Peter McCullough • Date: April 18, 2024
Episode Overview
Dr. Peter McCullough, a distinguished internist and cardiologist, shares his thought-provoking insights on the potential connections between childhood vaccinations, febrile seizures, and the development of autism spectrum disorders. Join us as we dive deep, question commonly held beliefs, and explore the empowering message that Dr. McCullough brings to the autism parenting community.
About Peter McCullough
Dr. McCullough is an internist, cardiologist, and epidemiologist holding degrees from Baylor University, University of Texas Southwestern Medical School, University of Michigan, and Southern Methodist University. He manages common infectious diseases as well as the cardiovascular complications of both the viral infection and the injuries developing after the COVID-19 vaccine in Dallas, TX, USA. Dr. McCullough has broadly published on a range of topics in medicine with > 1000 publications and > 685 citations in the National Library of Medicine. His works include “Pathophysiological Basis and Rationale for Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Infection,” the first widely utilized treatment regimen for ambulatory patients infected with SARS-CoV-2 in the American Journal of Medicine and subsequently updated in Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine. Subsequently, he published the first detoxification approach titled “Clinical Rationale for SARS-CoV-2 Base Spike Protein Detoxification in Post-COVID-19 and Vaccine Injury Syndromes” in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons. He has dozens of peer-reviewed publications on the infection and has commented extensively on the medical response to the COVID-19 crisis in TheHill, America Out Loud, and on FOX NEWS Channel. Dr. McCullough testified multiple times in the US Senate, European Parliament, Texas Senate Committee on Health and Human Services, Arizona Senate and House of Representatives, Colorado General Assembly, New Hampshire Senate, Pennsylvania Senate, and South Carolina Senate concerning many aspects of the pandemic response. Dr. McCullough has had years of dedicated academic and clinical efforts in combating the SARS-CoV-2 virus and, in doing so, has reviewed thousands of reports, participated in scientific congresses, group discussions, and press releases, and has been considered among the world's experts on COVID-19.
Dr. Peter McCullough www.petermcculloughmd.com
Chief Scientific Officer, The Wellness Company
President, McCullough Foundation
Author, Courage to Face COVID-19
You’ll Discover
A Possible Reason for Childhood Seizures (4:54)
How The Immune Systems Impacts The Brain (7:16)
The Importance of Doing Your Own Research (10:34)
Propaganda Terms You Need to Know (18:46)
Who You Need To Be Wary Of (23:09)
The Need For Courage And How To Deal With Criticism (26:34)
Referenced in This Episode
Full Transcript
Peter McCullough | 00:00
Parents need to do their own research. I think every parent should ask their pediatrician Do they think the vaccines have caused the autism? The conversation has to come up. And if the doctor says, there's just no way, the parents need to know, listen, the Institute of Medicine has been called in on this. And the Institute of Medicine says, listen, we're not sure. The Institute of Medicine has not ruled this out at all.
So I think the doctors and the parents need to have these kind of courageous discussions and do your own research.
Cass Arcuri | 00:29
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Len Arcuri | 00:40
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Cass Arcuri | 00:51
I'm Cass. And I'm Len. Welcome to Autism Parenting Secrets.
Len Arcuri | 01:07
Hello and welcome to Autism Parenting Secrets. It's Len. Buckle up because my guest today is going to be telling the truth. I am honored to welcome Dr. Peter McCullough to the show. He's a cardiologist, internist, epidemiologist and chief science officer at the Wellness Company. I'll let him share his credentials. But in my opinion... He's one of the smartest people on the planet. He's a true authority and he's written scores of papers. Testified to Congress multiple times. He's really. Passionate about the topics that he's dove into. And while some people may say he's controversial, I will say that He is incredibly accurate because when you look back at all the things he's talked about. He has been spot on.
So I just know he's going to have really useful insights for parents like you. His latest book was co-written with John Leake. It's called The Courage to Face COVID-19, and courage is the theme of the discussion for today.
So the secret this week is take a courageous stand for your child. Welcome, Dr. McCullough.
Peter McCullough | 02:12
Wow. Thanks so much for that introduction, Len, and thanks to each and every one of you listening to the program tonight. I'm Dr. Peter McCullough, and as introduced, I'm a practicing internist and cardiologist, a research epidemiologist in Dallas, Texas. I'm in the office today just finishing up. And, I see patients every day. I'm one of the few doctors you'll see in the media who actually does see patients every day. Now, I'm not a psychiatrist or a neurologist or a pediatrician, so I'm not an expert in autism, but I do have patients with autism spectrum disorder and attention deficit disorder. In my clinical practice as adults. And I do see some children So I'm certainly familiar with some of the issues. And believe it or not, I have friends colleagues you know, other doctors with autistic children.
So because autism has become so common now, it's touching all of our lives. You know, in some major programs, I did this at one of the Clay Clark events. I asked a show of Hansel and I said, how many of you in the audience are touched by autism or autism spectrum disorder? About a quarter of the people raised their hand.
Len Arcuri | 03:23
It's not shocking to me. It's incredible. But those numbers just keep going up. And I appreciate, yeah, that autism isn't necessarily your specialty. But clearly, given your role and your decades of experience, again, I think you have extremely useful perspectives. And I know we met at the Autism Health Summit where you gave a presentation. I think it may have been the first one you did, you know, specifically kind of geared toward autism. And really, yeah, what I'd love for us to cover in the time we have is really – What can parents do? Watch out for going forward because the environment's changing significantly. I feel like the deck is stacked against parents where there's all kinds of people and organizations. That are looking to take power away from you. And so this podcast is all about helping parents step into that stronger version of themselves So I'll hand it off to you in terms of if you just think about one of those parents. Who maybe just has a child who was just recently diagnosed and they're wanting to do the best they can and make good decisions. What would you... Think is important for them to know.
Peter McCullough | 04:31
Okay, terrific. And I did have a chance to meet a lot of parents there. And I have to tell you, for me, it was a very difficult meeting emotionally. I came home and told my wife, I said, this was tough. My heart was broken hearing the stories from parents. It really was. And meeting some of the kids, my heart was absolutely broken. And, and the reason being is I think the medical community actually may be contributing to the autism pandemic. And, you know, in Europe, they have a term called the essence disorders, and it includes attention deficit disorder, Autism Spectrum Disorder, Asperger's, Autism. And some motor disorders as well. And they almost all of them start in childhood ages two to four years old. Almost every one. And the risk factors that are known and accepted for this our older parents, and then siblings with one of these essence disorders.
So it's not very satisfying. There's a lot of older parents, and so it's hard to see this coming down the pike. But one of the important papers from Europe was published a few years ago It made the observation, that if a child has a febrile seizure, if they get a fever, and they have a seizure during childhood. And that is a response, typically fever over 104, this is the risk zone for that. And they have a seizure, that there's about a 40% chance they'll develop one of these essence disorders, primarily autism.
So the febrile seizure is really to be avoided. Now, what's one of the leading causes of febrile seizures? Is actually receiving multiple vaccines at one time.
So when I was a kid, there were vaccines and my mom took me in and I had them. Sadly, some of the vaccines failed, so I got more vaccines. But they were spaced out. I don't think I ever got more than one type During that development, later on in life, some were combined. But now a child at a single setting can get over a dozen. Shots and these combination shots. And the theory here is it's just too much immune stimulation. It's too much for some of the babies. And overwhelms the system They get a fever.
And then they have a febrile seizure. And then what the parents report is they're never the same. They're never the same. And you know, there's another Corollary there, there's emerging sources of data.
You know, it's another risk of this febrile seizure and this kind of reactogenic phase of vaccination. Is sudden infant death syndrome.
So, you know, death within a week. And it's raising the issue of is hypervaccination a problem here. And there's about 200 papers published suggesting that autism has an origin in what's called neuroimmunology. The immune system is somehow influencing the brain and causing these characteristic changes early in life. About 800 papers addressing the issue of could Childhood vaccines actually cause autism. And no one knows for sure. But one thing's for certain that if a child is completely unvaccinated. There's about five studies now showing that they have very low rates. Of not only autism or these essence disorders, but asthma, allergic dermatitis, allergies to various foods, other problems.
I mean, they just have a healthier lifestyle. And since, you know, the world has changed, we don't have... Polio endemic in the water supply or we don't have epidemics of diphtheria, pertussis, measles, what have you. The World Council for Health now says As of 2023, that the safer approach is to actually decline the vaccines, for parents to actually decline vaccines. And so in World Council for Health, it's like the WHO type of organization worldwide.
So my first advice with a parent struggling with a child with a newly diagnosed autism is no more vaccines. None. Because it's too risky if indeed the vaccines are playing a role. We can treat all these illnesses anyway.
So no more vaccines for the autistic kids.
Len Arcuri | 08:52
I was just going to say, in the entire schedule, right, as you said, there's a lot of vaccines for diseases that aren't relevant anymore. Like, no vaccine ever comes off the schedule.
So we're only adding to it. So I think what you were talking about is this multiplicity, right? The sheer number of them it very well might be a.
Peter McCullough | 09:11
Contributor. Right.
So just to be clear, so for instance, the oral polio vaccine, which I took, maybe you took, it did come off the schedule, but it was replaced with the injection polio vaccine. Turns out I had both. Because the first one didn't work. The small pouch vaccine, which I had, came off the schedule permanently. But you're right. It's been added. And to make matters worse, In the last 10 years now, pregnant women for the first time are taking vaccines during pregnancy. It's never done before. It's not needed. Because pregnant women don't have trouble with pneumococcal disease or diphtheria or any of these other so it's just completely unnecessary So, you know, my first advice is for more children, Definitely the mother should decline vaccines for the child decline vaccines because they could be playing a role. In the development of autism and, That's step one.
And then step two is, you're right, this theme of courage. Parents need to do their own research. I think every parent should ask their pediatrician, Do they think the vaccines have caused the autism. The conversation has to come up. If the doctor says, there's just no way.
You know, the parents need to know, listen, the Institute of Medicine has been called in on this. And the Institute of Medicine says, listen, we're not sure. And student medicine has not ruled this out at all.
So I think the doctors and the parents need to have these kind of courageous discussions and do your own research. Try to sort out what's going to make a difference in terms of counseling, other types of interventions, special schools. How do you deal with these? Don't forget, autism is a neuropsychiatric syndrome. Neuro. Meaning there's hyperacusis. How do you deal with the increased hearing? The different, not only their special needs, but there's unique talents. Many autistic children are very high on the IQ spectrum, for instance. A lot of people don't know this. I had an autistic young man who's now a college senior in my office this week. And my assistant, Kate, is so much fun. He goes, Dr. McCullough, he's the smartest guy I ever met. And he has a pretty severe case of autism, but he's, you know, obviously very intelligent.
So to kind of sort through this. Len, at the meeting, Do you remember the girl with autism who sang? Yes.
I mean, that's an example of town. So part of this, you know, advice I guess we're going to give parents together is to be courageous and in seeking out what the special talents of the child are and not just focusing on the deficits. Remember, courage is not the antithesis of fear. It's not the absence of fear. It's the ability to overcome fear. Now, why would parents be fearful? Because their child is not on a normal development schedule. And a lot of this is fear of the unknown and It's a fear of what could happen with respect to children being ostracized or potentially preyed upon in school. And so...
You know, all I can tell you is that when a parent is at that moment of discovery and they have an autistic children, an autistic child. It's going to make that parent a better parent. It's going to up Your game as a parent, that every parent's always told me that.
So it is transformational.
Len Arcuri | 12:36
No, truly. And I love everything that you said. The first step that you talked about, though, in terms of looking at immunizations and making better choices there, again, that requires courage. And so it all comes down to Why doesn't a parent like myself, let's say early on, have courage or enough that was what my child really needed me, my son Ryan needed me to have. And I know it's basically either the parent can be in the dark and just not knowing that what's going on and what might be happening.
And then it's fear, as you mentioned. So I think you know, with parents, The question is, like when they're making decisions, it all comes down to cost benefit. Taking the time, like you said, doing your own research, understanding, okay, whatever the intervention is, whatever the decision is, What are the benefits? What are the costs? I know when I was given the task by my wife, Cass, about looking into the vaccine thing. I spent five minutes, got to the CBC site. They said vaccines are safe. I'm like, all right, my research is done.
So I didn't know back then to dig deeper. And I didn't really want to dig deeper because I didn't want to know that there were concerns. My son definitely... The schedule did not work for him. That was definitely a piece of the puzzle for what contributed to his moderate to severe autism, and he's progressed really well.
Peter McCullough | 13:59
But Len, did he have a febrile seizure?
Len Arcuri | 14:02
Yeah, he had two events that we never got the diagnosis that it was definitely a seizure, but he had two seizure-like events. But this was even after...
Yeah, so that was part of his presentation.
Peter McCullough | 14:16
But did he have a normal development up until some type of vaccination event?
Len Arcuri | 14:21
Yeah, absolutely. The 12 month, it was a 12 month wellness visit where, those, the MMR particularly, it seemed like that was like that pushed him over the edge.
Peter McCullough | 14:32
Okay. So it was clear.
I mean, the parent vignettes, it was a Yeah.
Len Arcuri | 14:35
Medical exemption from vaccines at the time, which would be very hard to get now.
Peter McCullough | 14:40
But I think the parent vignettes are, I found them to be most powerful and they're in the medical literature. Where the parents know, they know their child better than anyone, And, you know, by the way, the childhood schedule, since we're on it, do you know that the ACIP, the CDC ACIP panel, they added the COVID vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna. To the childhood schedule down to age six, And, you know, there's already a preclinical study now done in rodents. Where the vaccines actually induce autistic behavior in the rodents with COVID vaccines.
So this does not look good at all. I don't think any child should receive these vaccines under any circumstances.
So the parents need to weed through this. Now, remember the epidemiology of this. If there's already one child with autism, the next child that comes is far more likely to develop autism.
So for sure, you don't want to have that next child take a vaccine under no circumstances. Again, we can treat all these illnesses. Remember, if a woman is conceived, had an autistic child, she should decline vaccines during pregnancy. This is important. We don't know if vaccines cause autism for sure, but boy, it looks like a strong risk factor. And if it's something you can do to mitigate the risks, for sure do it.
Len Arcuri | 16:00
That's right. And a key thing is that the science is not in where conclusively there's no link.
I mean, there's a lot of studies that are being done. There's a lot of science out there. But the conclusive studies have not been done to, let's say, as you mentioned before, to compare vaccinated versus people who are unvaccinated, the more of a natural approach.
So again, the jury's out. So the precautionary principle applies where if you're a parent, to just dig deeper into this, learn more. And again, I think what you're talking about, Dr. McCullough is, isn't like your opinion on what you think about, like you're, you know, what's in the literature, you know, what's known and what's not. And that's why I really want, parents to understand that this requires a second.
Peter McCullough | 16:42
Look. Yeah, I could just tell you what I would do.
I mean, I'm coming to the age, I'll probably be a grandparent. But I would advise a young couple today to just follow the World Council for Health and just defer on the vaccines. Things are getting a little too crazy with vaccines. Why take the risk and end up with an autistic child? You know, that would be my advice. I'm standing behind the world council of health. And by the way, in the United States, there's a physician organization to support. It's the association of American physician and surgeons. Do you know, in 2020, they came out with a, with a referendum, actually a society statement that no vaccine should be mandated anywhere.
So for schools, for, and the reason being is the national, Vaccine Injury Compensation Act of 1986, written right into legislation, says that vaccines have unavoidable harms.
Len Arcuri | 17:36
Yeah, they're unavoidably unsafe.
Peter McCullough | 17:39
Yeah, unavoidably unsafe. So no one should ever be coerced into taking them. As I mentioned, my mom... Back in the 60s, nobody knew. I was taken in for these shots. Then the polio shot was said to fail, so I took more shots. Then I went off to medical school and they said, well, I got to take more MMRs. It just kept going and going. I traveled to India, so we got to take more shots. I got to a point where in my body, I've taken 69 shots. And so, you know, in 2019, I was the named – endowed visiting lecturer to Harvard. If you would go on my Wikipedia page, you know, it was like, Dr. McCullough is this cardiologist who's, you know, leading the field. And, On and on. If you go to my Wikipedia page now, it says I'm an anti-vaxxer. And I say, well, wait a minute. I took all these vaccines. I can't be an anti-vaxxer. Actually, during COVID, I was a co-principal investigator, actually, of a big vaccine program that we proposed to the NIH, the Imogilon vaccine.
So I'm not an anti-vaxxer, everybody. I've taken all the vaccines. I can't be an anti-vaxxer. But I am vaccine risk aware. And for parents, I want the parents to be able to have some tools so you can handle these phrases because you'll be at teacher conferences and you'll interact with other parents or Bible study or church.
So, What we're talking about today is propaganda. Being waged and the parents get caught up in this.
So let's cover the propaganda terms. Misinformation. Disinformation. Malinformation. Anti-vaxxer anti-science and conspiracy theorist. Okay, so these are five propaganda terms. Now listen, the only people who use these terms, I don't use them, but the people who use these terms are actually waging propaganda. They are trying to exert their view on top of yours. They were extensively used in Nazi Germany.
I mean, they're just they're straight out of the Nazi playbook. You don't want to use these terms.
So misinformation, disinformation, malinformation. They don't exist. We're talking about autism. It's a clinical diagnosis. There's simply emerging information, and there's multiple points of view. We're doing our own research. We're interpreting it. No one holds the information, and somebody else doesn't hold the information.
So don't use these words. Don't start slinging mud. You said misinformation. You did. Back and forth. I saw Dr. McCary from Hopkins do this in college. In congressional testimony, and I just testified in Congress too, and I just said, I wouldn't do that. I said misinformation. Disinformation, malformation doesn't exist. It's we simply have scientific information. Let's discuss it because we have different points of view. OK, that's handled there. The next one is anti-vaxxer.
So that's like saying that you're, you know, you're an anti-fruit eater or something. It's like, no, we're not. We're not anti-vaxxers. We're just vaccine risk aware. We've been studying this and there are. Clear risk.
So you just kind of turn it around a little bit. The next one is, anti-science. Now that one locates to a vaccine developer in Houston, Dr. Peter Hotez. He's kind of a junior colleague to me. And Dr. Hotez... He has a lecture series said the deadly rise of anti-science, the deadly rise of anti-science.
Well, he doesn't hold science and somebody else hold anti-science. Science is a scientific process. And we participate in it. But there is no such thing as anti-science. And what you want to do is you don't want to use these terms and you want to elevate above. Now, sadly... He has a child with autism. And he published a book called And the title of the book is The MMR Vaccine Did Not Cause Rachel's Autism.
You know, I can tell you right off the bat. That's a form of psychological transference. He actually does think the vaccines caused autism. He's writing a book to try to have him cope with this reality that he's a vaccine developer and his daughter developed a vaccine injury. That's what's going on there.
So anti-vaxxer, just say, listen, I'm vaccine risk aware. I'm all for vaccines, but you know what? I'm vaccine risk aware. Now, the last one is conspiracy theorists. This one's pretty fun. You can provide the link in the show notes link. People say, well, you're a conspiracy theorist and say, no, I'm just interpreting the And like everybody else. I have theories. And my theories are rational theories and we can talk about them. We're talking about the theory That. Hyper-vaccination may be a determinant of autism. That's a theory. But it's a rational theory, you know, supported by emerging scientific sources of information.
So go to www.rationaltheory.com. And it's a great little like one minute or two minute clip, www.rationaltheory.com. And the reason why I'm pointing you there, because I'm in the little movie they decided to pick on me. But, you know, so that'll get us to a reasonable discussion because we have to have a reasonable discussion about this. Parents, like you say, are afraid. What's going on is gaslighting. Gaslighting is no, it's just in your head. It's not really the case. Be wary of anybody who's dismissive. No, vaccines could not cause autism. How do we know?
I mean, we've never given 12 shots together. We've never given a COVID vaccine at six months years old. We have no long-term information available. Do you know babies born today? They're getting the hepatitis B vaccine. They're getting a vitamin K shot. And now they're getting Bay Fortis. A depo monoclonal antibody injection against RSV. That's never been done before in history. How do we know if that's safe?
So what I'm saying is no one can tell you it's safe because it's never been done before. Pregnant women took the COVID vaccines. Is that safe? We don't know. The children who are born...
You know, aren't even a few years old yet.
Len Arcuri | 24:05
That's where everything you're saying are truth bombs. These are truths, but the narrative, what people may be hearing from news sources, etc.
Peter McCullough | 24:15
It can't be true because let's say somebody makes a conclusion about long-term safety. Yes, the COVID vaccines are safe in pregnant women long-term. There hasn't been a long term It's impossible to know.
So the point is, it's impossible to know. I just testified in Congress and someone asked me, Dr. McCullough, How long do we have to worry about the COVID-19 vaccines? I said, according to the FDA regulations, because the vaccines are... A form of genetic technology, the answer is five years from the last shot. And I go on Dan Bongino all the time. He's, Doc, when is it over? When do I can stop worrying? The bottom line is really five years.
So we just have to be honest. We don't know what's going to happen. In the next five years after taking the COVID shots, We're going to have to observe. We don't know what's going to happen when a baby gets bay fortis. On the first day of life and then at eight months, we don't know because it's never been done before long term.
So what we're talking about is on a scale we've never seen before. Some people think medicine and scientific advancement has gotten out of control. We've gotten out in front of our skis. And there's a big push to go natural then. And, you know, natural is looking pretty good right now. Natural without all this intervention. If I was a parent and I had an autistic child, you know what I would do? I'd sign up for autism research. I'd be interested in neurocognitive research, new techniques, new computer techniques, other things. I think an area to explore, I'm not an expert, but boy, it looks attractive, is the microbiome. The microbiome. Remember all the organisms, the bacteria, viruses, and fungi in our nose and mouth and our GI tract? They're communicating with our immune system. And our immune system is communicating with our brain.
So I'd be very interested in that area. So now we're coming to the end, but I think I'll be able to take one more question, but it's been great to be on with you and your families.
Len Arcuri | 26:21
Yeah, no, I appreciate you've had a long day. And I definitely want you to share where people can find more about you because I just think you're a machine when it comes to what you're talking about, citing study after study.
So you're so deeply immersed. And knowledgeable. But I guess just going back to courage, you've dealt with a lot of negative consequences in terms of the Wikipedia page, what people say about you and I think for our parents, it's going to be painful for you to be courageous. There are going to be people who are not cheering you on, who are going to be throwing arrows at you.
So I think if you have any comments just on How to help parents just BOK stepping into you know, into the fray because otherwise it's so easy just to rely on other people. You can always blame the experts for steering you wrong. There's consequences for stepping out and being bold.
Like you're doing in all the work that you're doing now. That's not popular with a lot of people. You're getting a lot of arrows.
Peter McCullough | 27:22
Well, it's interesting. I've never had a doctor of my standing. Let's say a chief of medicine or a chief of psychiatry, Ever disagree with me, ever send me a bad email or say, you know, I disagree. These vaccines are the greatest thing.
You know, when Peter Hotez down at Houston said, He was a professor in Houston. I was a professor in Dallas. We're both highly published. I'm a little bit ahead of him, a little bit younger. But, you know, he went on Joe Rogan. I went on Joe Rogan. I messaged Joe. I said, listen, invite Hotez. He'll come from Houston. I'll come from Dallas and we'll just talk about vaccine safety. I'm an expert in vaccine safety now. I'm an epidemiologist. I've led data safety monitoring boards. They've got one of the most published people in COVID-19. And Rogan said he won't come. He won't have a discussion.
So what I'm telling the parents is don't be afraid. To offer yourself up for a discussion. You'll be okay. Just be dispassionate Just be, you know, listen to learn. There's no reason to argue And let's try to learn together.
You know, get out there to these conferences at Autism Summit. I've never been to it before. It was very high end. People just wanted you could tell people were out searching. They wanted to learn. They wanted to have connections. The online support groups shows like yours, Len, and your group is terrific. People learn from each other.
You know, most of the parents of autistic children, my experience is. Is they're very high-end people. These are very accomplished professionals. They know what they're doing. They're resourceful. The kids end up in great shape.
Listen, one thing I really want people to know, children end up in great shape. The child I had today is a senior. He's at a major university. He's starting his own company. And, you know, he's doing great. The kids will be fine. They need you as parents, but they do want to see courage. And, you know, hold strong. Be bold, be relentless, get out there and tweet after me and all the people you see out there as your heroes. We're in an epic struggle of some sort. In my book behind you, we define this biopharmaceutical complex, this syndicate of these organizations that's formed in big pharma. They seem to want to run the table and just hit everybody with a drug and an injection. And they don't want any discussion. They certainly don't want any research on safety. We have to promote a culture of safety. And if giving all these vaccines all at once isn't safe, We need to let the world know about it. And we need to break this because more children will develop autism or more children will have febrile seizures or end up with epilepsy and all these other complications.
So let's work together on this. I'm Dr. Peter McCullough-Lennon. Thank you so much for having me.
Len Arcuri | 30:13
Thank you, Dr. McCullough. And I know in terms of where people can find you, it's www.petermculloughmd.com, correct? Yes.
Peter McCullough | 30:21
Yeah. That's the website. That'll take you everywhere. And get out there. My book, Courage to Face COVID.com, five-star bestseller. Amazon tried to censor it for 12 days after it was a bestseller. And we prevailed. But get a copy. Read about two and a half hours. It's gripping. Probably be a major motion picture. My podcast, America Out Loud Talk Radio, McCullough Report, every Tuesday. At 2 p.m. Saturday and Sunday.
And then it's on the Apple iHeart Podcast Network. We've featured autism and we'll continue to do so. I want to bring on the experts and learn a lot more. We cover a whole range of topics. My Substack, Courageous Discourse Substack. I've reviewed some of the vaccines. We'll just go through it. Make sure you get out there and retweet me up, you guys, because I'm nearly a million followers on Twitter. Twitter's running every program to knock off my followers. And I think if I break through a million, I think they can't stop me.
Len Arcuri | 31:13
Well, keep shining your light. I will support you, everyone listening. Check out Dr. Mercola. And again, thank you so much for spending time with me today. Thank you. Thank you.
Cass Arcuri | 31:24
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